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Post by League Commish (Hurricanes GM) on Mar 11, 2013 7:15:34 GMT -5
Alright, before you vote, hear me out.
I think some of you seem to think that I'm against doing the second round on the boards and that it makes the draft feel unimportant. That is not the case at all. In fact, I probably do more preparation for the entry draft than any other part of the season. Here's the reason why I don't do second rounds;
Nobody shows up!
We've been through several seasons here at PTPHL in various different forms and the same scenario always plays out. I do a poll, people say they want round two in both the poll and vocally, and then when the actual time comes, nobody shows up. There were two second rounds in a row where I auto'd 95% of the picks and only 2-3 GMs showed up live. We also had another time when I had an emergency and E'Day took over, everyone complained and wanted a do-over, then nobody showed up for that either! For these reasons, I prefer to simply just auto it and take lists.
That said, I don't want you guys to think that I don't care about the draft or want you to waste your picks or anything like that. So, vote yes or no in the poll to let me know, but keep in mind that if we decide to go ahead with it and I see a small turn out when we start, i'll simply scratch the entire thing and take lists again. If you want to do this second round, please actually take the effort to be around, that's all I ask.
By the way, round two would be tomorrow night at 7EST, so, the same time as tonight's.
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Post by circusfreak (Ottawa) on Mar 11, 2013 8:40:24 GMT -5
a suggestion similar to what was happening last night, let the draft run similar to that, with the exception of once the team is on the clock give them 12-hours to make their pick if they do not make there pick, if the 12 hours runs out they receive either the next highest on their list(this works well if you know they are going by the list only, or the next eligible highest draftee.
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Post by jimbob (Devils GM) on Mar 11, 2013 8:45:18 GMT -5
Most leagues i have been in draft the 1st and 2nd rounds....sometimes the 3rd.....but auto the rest............i agree with Circus freak.....try it that way and see what happens
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Post by ted1971 on Mar 11, 2013 9:22:55 GMT -5
I agree with Jim Billy Joe Bob. Every league I've been in, We do at least the 1st 2 rounds live. The 3rd most of the time, depends on the amount of people there.
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Post by League Commish (Hurricanes GM) on Mar 11, 2013 9:24:42 GMT -5
a suggestion similar to what was happening last night, let the draft run similar to that, with the exception of once the team is on the clock give them 12-hours to make their pick if they do not make there pick, if the 12 hours runs out they receive either the next highest on their list(this works well if you know they are going by the list only, or the next eligible highest draftee. I'd be all for letting people have more time on the clock, but it becomes an issue when we're dragging out the whole 12 hours or whatever. That's half a day for one pick and I'm sure everyone's itching to get to UFA and start the second season, it would just be a huge drag. If we wait too long to move past this, people are going to become disinterested.
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Post by ryetheguy24 (Jets GM) on Mar 11, 2013 9:27:15 GMT -5
I say no. You guys weren't here in older versions of the league, I know how bad the drafts were from experience. When Commish says that only 4-5 GMs showed up, it's true. Pretty much the entirety of that second round was him autoing peoples picks. Its a waste of time for him and also the four or five GMs who actually take time out of their schedule to be on for it when they could just send in a list and that would be it.
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Post by jimbob (Devils GM) on Mar 11, 2013 9:31:50 GMT -5
Well lists could be the way to go also........i am down for that
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Post by ryetheguy24 (Jets GM) on Mar 11, 2013 9:35:38 GMT -5
Well lists could be the way to go also........i am down for that He's been saying that we can send in lists for a while now so I'm sure he'd be down for that. It would probably be easier for him as well.
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Post by HoneyBee (Avs GM) on Mar 11, 2013 12:18:00 GMT -5
If it is held I'll show up, but if not I won't bitch
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Post by minion-Panthers on Mar 11, 2013 16:08:49 GMT -5
I think Rnd 2 should just continue on as Rnd 1. Suspend picking during reasonable sleep hours, but end selections at say midnight tonight, and begin selections again at 10 am tomorrow. Give teams 20-30 minutes per picks. No list, no pick team is auto'ed. If you do the math, if every team took a full 20 min, then from where we are now (pick 7) until the end of the draft would be 18 hours total. Even with a "sleep break" I can't see how we could finish rounds 1 and 2 by tomorrow night. If people know they won't be around-work, school, whatever, send a list or be auto'ed. Think that's a nice cropromise
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Post by League Commish (Hurricanes GM) on Mar 11, 2013 16:22:41 GMT -5
I think Rnd 2 should just continue on as Rnd 1. Suspend picking during reasonable sleep hours, but end selections at say midnight tonight, and begin selections again at 10 am tomorrow. Give teams 20-30 minutes per picks. No list, no pick team is auto'ed. If you do the math, if every team took a full 20 min, then from where we are now (pick 7) until the end of the draft would be 18 hours total. Even with a "sleep break" I can't see how we could finish rounds 1 and 2 by tomorrow night. If people know they won't be around-work, school, whatever, send a list or be auto'ed. Think that's a nice cropromise The problem wiht that is, I'm not staying on all night after the draft and all tomorrow to moderate it.
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Post by jhabs61 on Mar 11, 2013 16:31:54 GMT -5
If it is held I'll show up, but if not I won't bitch ^^^ I'll either send a list or be here for it(pending on the vote)
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Post by minion-Panthers on Mar 11, 2013 17:29:49 GMT -5
I think Rnd 2 should just continue on as Rnd 1. Suspend picking during reasonable sleep hours, but end selections at say midnight tonight, and begin selections again at 10 am tomorrow. Give teams 20-30 minutes per picks. No list, no pick team is auto'ed. If you do the math, if every team took a full 20 min, then from where we are now (pick 7) until the end of the draft would be 18 hours total. Even with a "sleep break" I can't see how we could finish rounds 1 and 2 by tomorrow night. If people know they won't be around-work, school, whatever, send a list or be auto'ed. Think that's a nice cropromise The problem wiht that is, I'm not staying on all night after the draft and all tomorrow to moderate it. No insult meant, but how much moderation has been needed? Have to keep time, and keep a list for auto picks and no duplicates. If that's all that's involved, I could keep things rolling tomorrow. I'm scheduled an office day at home tomorrow so I will be home all day.I know personally I'd rather be making my own second round picks, and yeah I can send in a list, but things change. I have been thinking of player Y for my pick, but hey player X wasn't drafted, so its him I'll take. Makes for long lists.
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Post by ted1971 on Mar 11, 2013 17:58:43 GMT -5
Absolutely ridiculous that only 1 round is live.
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Post by minion-Panthers on Mar 11, 2013 20:07:33 GMT -5
We could be doing Round 2 right now.
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