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Post by Chicago GM on Feb 11, 2013 13:57:45 GMT -5
Losing two centers will not "ruin" them, considering they have other players on the team that can take faceoffs and are similar players. (Connolly, Lombardi). Also if you start factoring things such as well, "if you acquire x player, your still not going to do well so no you can't trade for him", then your crossing a line imo, your essentially dictating how a GM should run the team.
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Post by jimbob (Devils GM) on Feb 11, 2013 14:11:22 GMT -5
There really isnt anyone better in the league at FAs then Bozak and Steckel at 92 next best they have is McClement at 79. I just dont see how this could have passed at all with any kind of logic.
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Post by ted1971 on Feb 11, 2013 17:03:50 GMT -5
To Columbus Vincent Lecavalier C 32 7727273 4 48 82 79 80 76 73 73 79 82 75 77 78 78 80 74 78 Peter Holland C 21 262500 1 48 57 58 59 62 51 69 76 59 72 74 50 56 58 60 65 Ana 2nd '13 To Anaheim James Wisniewski D 28 5500000 5 35 83 78 77 74 72 82 79 78 78 58 60 78 79 76 75 I cant beleieve this trade made it thru HUGE FP The best player in the deal is Lecavalier and They add a 2013 2nd in a deep draft and Peter Holland? GM should be fired over this deal.
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Post by JIM (Wild GM)/FwdAgent(M-Z) on Feb 11, 2013 17:12:59 GMT -5
To Columbus Vincent Lecavalier C 32 7727273 4 48 82 79 80 76 73 73 79 82 75 77 78 78 80 74 78 Peter Holland C 21 262500 1 48 57 58 59 62 51 69 76 59 72 74 50 56 58 60 65 Ana 2nd '13 To Anaheim James Wisniewski D 28 5500000 5 35 83 78 77 74 72 82 79 78 78 58 60 78 79 76 75 I cant beleieve this trade made it thru HUGE FP The best player in the deal is Lecavalier and They add a 2013 2nd in a deep draft and Peter Holland? GM should be fired over this deal. I disagree. Holland is a big question mark, Vinny is solid but overpaid and aging. Wiz is a great two way defender locked up in a decent contract. There are fewer defenders like Wiz than there are forwards like Vinny.
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Post by bernie on Feb 11, 2013 22:25:34 GMT -5
can i back out of the second part of our deal, the part that hasnt been accepted yet and rework it? ?? i dont want to get ripped
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Post by ted1971 on Feb 12, 2013 6:40:12 GMT -5
The best player in the deal is Lecavalier and They add a 2013 2nd in a deep draft and Peter Holland? GM should be fired over this deal. I disagree. Holland is a big question mark, Vinny is solid but overpaid and aging. Wiz is a great two way defender locked up in a decent contract. There are fewer defenders like Wiz than there are forwards like Vinny. You know that I respect Your GM skills, but I still don't see adding both Holland & a pick in this deal. Wiz's deal is so bad that in other leagues that We have both been in, Wiz can't even get moved. It would be better if it was a 1 for 1 deal.
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Post by E'day (Rangers GM) DF PA on Feb 12, 2013 7:30:24 GMT -5
I disagree. Holland is a big question mark, Vinny is solid but overpaid and aging. Wiz is a great two way defender locked up in a decent contract. There are fewer defenders like Wiz than there are forwards like Vinny. You know that I respect Your GM skills, but I still don't see adding both Holland & a pick in this deal. Wiz's deal is so bad that in other leagues that We have both been in, Wiz can't even get moved. It would be better if it was a 1 for 1 deal. I don't mean this in ANY way to be disrespectful, but you have players with similar contracts, or worse ones, who are lesser players than Wiz is (I have terrible ones as well). It's not really anyone's place to tell someone they can't have whatever player they want. This is a deal that someone put on the table, and 2 people agreed to it. Vinny has an even worse contract, so to take on a worse one, the GM should get a little compensation, I'd want some for taking on a larger deal. I think people need to stop pretending that ever deal is going to be fair. You'd never get a deal done if that was the case
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Post by jimbob (Devils GM) on Feb 12, 2013 9:01:55 GMT -5
Yes and the compensation for taking Vinny is either Holland OR the 2nd.....shouldn't be both IMO. I am starting to notice a trend of bad trades here and i think it will only get worse before it gets better.
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Post by kelly on Feb 12, 2013 10:26:38 GMT -5
I got the better end of the deal. You win some, you lose some. Everyone wanted Wiz, so he had to pay up. Fine by me
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Post by JIM (Wild GM)/FwdAgent(M-Z) on Feb 12, 2013 10:45:42 GMT -5
I got the better end of the deal. You win some, you lose some. Everyone wanted Wiz, so he had to pay up. Fine by me Someone who understands the concept of market prices, Huzzah!
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Post by kelly on Feb 12, 2013 13:04:28 GMT -5
Yes and the compensation for taking Vinny is either Holland OR the 2nd.....shouldn't be both IMO. I am starting to notice a trend of bad trades here and i think it will only get worse before it gets better. So then make an offer for Lecav. I see a bunch of people saying I got this great player for very little, yet not a single person has offered as much as a 2nd round pick for him.
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Post by kelly on Feb 12, 2013 13:06:03 GMT -5
My previous message is directed at devils/oilers/stars.
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Post by E'day (Rangers GM) DF PA on Feb 12, 2013 15:13:07 GMT -5
Yes and the compensation for taking Vinny is either Holland OR the 2nd.....shouldn't be both IMO. I am starting to notice a trend of bad trades here and i think it will only get worse before it gets better. age and salary, that looks like 2 to me
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Post by shanye on Feb 12, 2013 17:54:17 GMT -5
No offense but you have alot of time on your hands, lmao lol. I just downloaded the roster files into a excel-ish program, and compiled them all in one sheet. Then set some parameters and organized by one category. Took like under 5 minutes maybe.
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Post by League Commish (Hurricanes GM) on Feb 12, 2013 17:56:10 GMT -5
No offense but you have alot of time on your hands, lmao lol. I just downloaded the roster files into a excel-ish program, and compiled them all in one sheet. Then set some parameters and organized by one category. Took like under 5 minutes maybe. You computer nerds and your fancy programs. I'd have done that by hand and hated myself for it four hours later LOL
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