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Post by League Commish (Hurricanes GM) on Feb 13, 2013 13:35:25 GMT -5
ohhh i would move on....IF it wasnt STILL happening......but it is How can I put this nicely without sounding mean. We kinda don't care if one GM is disgruntled with the trades. I mean, it would be different if it was a GM like, say for example, Olaf who rarely complains about any trade. If he made a big deal about a trade being bad then there's probably something up. But you've been complaining about alot of them, and it's not just you either, there are a few other GMs but for the most part the majority of the league seems to think "its their team, let them do what they want." Also, I feel the need to explain the TC procedure since I'm sure either you or someone else has doubts. It's a majority vote amongst three members, I'm not involved in any trade passing unless a fellow TC member is involved. If there's two TC members involved, I ask for an outside opinion. Inside, there's usually a fairly good discussion, I can even copy what some of them said in the thread for the TOR/ANA deals if you want to see what goes on behind the scenes and the TC members don't mind. So yeah, normally it's a majority vote but I need to stress that all THREE TC members passed that trade. It wasnt a 2-1 vote, everybody thought i t was fine and arguments for why were provided. The reason I have these people in the TC in the first place is because I know them very well and they have, arguably, even more experience in EHM than I do and I've been in the community for ten years or so now. I trust them and their opinions and most of the time they're usually spot on with how I feel about alot of the trades. Its fine to not like some of the trades that go through, i'm sure that nobody does, but you guys don't need to complain about every single one with concerns that we already know and have already brought up in discussions. We know what we're doing, trust me.
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Post by bernie on Feb 13, 2013 13:43:35 GMT -5
ptphl has the best commish in all leagues
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Post by Leq (Tampa Bay GM) on Feb 13, 2013 13:43:56 GMT -5
All the players involved in the current Vinny trade are overpaid, and old.
Also, if you have a problem with the trades I make, open up my roster and take a look at my team. It will speak for itself.
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Post by jimbob (Devils GM) on Feb 13, 2013 13:44:11 GMT -5
ahh BUT it hasnt been every single one....it has been the ones lately..........but i am done fuckin around with these trades,,,,,if you wanna let a few gms killl some teams in here big time then so be it.....no one will take those teams once the Gm leaves, thus killing some potentially new gms.....and IMO trades shouldnt be made with picks in it for 3 years down the road.....cause i doubt this league will last that long,.....not saying i dont want it to, but the chances are slim and none really.....and like u stated...i am not alone on this by far and if the Tcs wanna make themselves look bad thats their problems not mine.......all o fthis just makes me not want to deal reallly...and i know that others feel the same way too...
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Post by kelly on Feb 13, 2013 13:46:53 GMT -5
ahh BUT it hasnt been every single one....it has been the ones lately..........but i am done fuckin around with these trades,,,,,if you wanna let a few gms killl some teams in here big time then so be it.....no one will take those teams once the Gm leaves, thus killing some potentially new gms.....and IMO trades shouldnt be made with picks in it for 3 years down the road.....cause i doubt this league will last that long,.....not saying i dont want it to, but the chances are slim and none really.....and like u stated...i am not alone on this by far and if the Tcs wanna make themselves look bad thats their problems not mine.......all o fthis just makes me not want to deal reallly...and i know that others feel the same way too... pretty sure it's just you
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Post by League Commish (Hurricanes GM) on Feb 13, 2013 13:47:02 GMT -5
ahh BUT it hasnt been every single one....it has been the ones lately..........but i am done fuckin around with these trades,,,,,if you wanna let a few gms killl some teams in here big time then so be it.....no one will take those teams once the Gm leaves, thus killing some potentially new gms.....and IMO trades shouldnt be made with picks in it for 3 years down the road.....cause i doubt this league will last that long,.....not saying i dont want it to, but the chances are slim and none really.....and like u stated...i am not alone on this by far and if the Tcs wanna make themselves look bad thats their problems not mine.......all o fthis just makes me not want to deal reallly...and i know that others feel the same way too... It makes you not want to deal? Bernie was so sick of being bugged about his trade that he was literally afraid to post one. Stop acting like youre a victim of something when you're not. Also, the original PTPHL lasted 5 years before I had internet problems (long story, involves cats LOL), so it's not a stretch to imagine that we could go that far.
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Post by jimbob (Devils GM) on Feb 13, 2013 13:51:25 GMT -5
Think or say whatever you want........it isnt like this is my first sim league or my last....i know when something isnt right and i am not afraid to speak my mind no matter who it is to.
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Post by League Commish (Hurricanes GM) on Feb 13, 2013 13:53:11 GMT -5
We don't mind that you speak your mind. The thing is that it happened so frequently and in such a harsh way that it made another GM afraid to make deals. That looks bad on me and the rest of the league as well as you. You say it'll be a problem to get new GMs if the teams are being hurt by bad trades? Wel, it would be just as hard to get new GMs if the league has a reputation of being hurtful to others and a hostile place to be.
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Post by kelly on Feb 14, 2013 15:34:11 GMT -5
Jimbob in PM It went through, a promise is a promise. Time for you to leave
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Post by knight on Mar 2, 2013 17:45:54 GMT -5
That Zetterberg trade is horrible. basically nothing of value besides maybe Sieloff for one of the best centers in the file.
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Post by jimbob (Devils GM) on Mar 7, 2013 21:54:55 GMT -5
i dont like the looks of that CGY /Tor trade..........brodie=2nd rounder pretty much.......but a 2nd OV for Phanuef and Lupul? LOL
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Post by E'day (Rangers GM) DF PA on Mar 7, 2013 22:44:15 GMT -5
i dont like the looks of that CGY /Tor trade..........brodie=2nd rounder pretty much.......but a 2nd OV for Phanuef and Lupul? LOL What's wrong with getting a top 6 forward and a number 1 defenseman? He is clearly trying to win now with his recent trades
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Post by jimbob (Devils GM) on Mar 8, 2013 8:26:19 GMT -5
i dont like the looks of that CGY /Tor trade..........brodie=2nd rounder pretty much.......but a 2nd OV for Phanuef and Lupul? LOL What's wrong with getting a top 6 forward and a number 1 defenseman? He is clearly trying to win now with his recent trades I would think that Lupul and Phanuef is worth a bit more then that......
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Post by HoneyBee (Avs GM) on Mar 8, 2013 13:30:14 GMT -5
The trade is fine. I don't understand the complaining, I really don't.
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Post by jimbob (Devils GM) on Mar 9, 2013 9:18:13 GMT -5
Well i will quote one comparision "Phaneuf > Flash + Robidas + 1st.".......so IF Phanuef is worth that.......then how is Phanuef AND Lupul worth a 2nd OV pick?
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